Monday, November 24, 2008

Utah

I'm not one to gloat too much, and so this will be brief.

It gave me great pleasure to finally see Utah play up to their potential on Saturday. Most of this year, they have struggled and scraped by against the good teams they have played, having to come back against Oregon State, and basically getting a miracle win handed to them by the Fates against TCU.

Not Saturday. Saturday, they put a major-league butt whipping on BYU. The Final was 48-24, but believe it or not, it wasn't that close. Utah dropped SEVERAL easy interceptions on drives BYU eventually scored on. Max Hall could have easily thrown seven or eight picks if the Utes could catch. That being said, the score was 27-24 at one point and I was thinking "here we go again."

BYU was exposed as a little bit of a fraud this year, having played a cream puff schedule. Those of you who follow the Mountain West will know that BYU didn't fare well in the 2 games they had against decent competition. (Utah and TCU.) They only beat 0-11 Washington on a cheap penalty flag at the end of the game. Oh well, that program is still solid and is headed in the right direction. One of these years they might get a BCS bid themselves.

Not this year, though. Nope, that honor resides with the mighty Utes. Hopefully they represent themselves well. Either way, we got the win that matters most against or rival, and will get everyone in the conference a big payday, so you're welcome BYU and other MWC trash. (I never said I wasn't going to gloat, just that I wouldn't gloat too much.)

Maybe next year, we can ride your cottails to a big payday, but probably not.
PEACE

11 comments:

Rich said...

It's a good thing it wasn't too close again, my old heart couldn't take another game like the last two had been.

Anonymous said...

"It gave me great pleasure to finally see Utah play up to their potential on Saturday."

I think you're letting blind allegiance to your alma mater color your perception. The Utes didn't play any better than in any other game of the season. BYU just played a really bad, Max Hall in particular.

"BYU was exposed as a little bit of a fraud this year, having played a cream puff schedule."

Get off your high horse, Body. The Utes had their fair share of struggles this season, barely eking out wins in several instances (Lobos anyone?). Yeah, they squeaked by Michigan, but that team ended up 3-9. Whoopteefrickindoo.

Let's all just admit the fact that Utah got lucky a few times. I maintain that they'd struggle to beat any other team in the top 10.

Cheeth said...

Utah whupped BYU. I am a BYU fan, and I hear a lot of my fellow BYU fans (many of whom I hate for the same reasons Utes do) cite BYU's yardage and other stats to say that the game was actually close.

Here's the thing: When you cough it up or throw a pick on every other drive, you give the other team a short field. That leads to points, not yardage stats.

Hall choked on a thick, veiny Utah defense. Hopefully he learns from it and gets better in the clutch.

Anyway, I couldn't think of a better way to lose to Utah. Think about it, if BYU had won, they'd have gone to the Las Vegas Bowl for whatever the payout there is (I believe it involves a $90 slot voucher and 2 for 1 buffets at Sam's Town, but instead the Cougars get a nice slice of BCS cheese. Plus, I like Utah. Here's hoping Utah doesn't get another patsy like Pitt in 2004, so they can show their real stuff in the bowl game.

Boyd said...

"I think you're letting blind allegiance to your alma mater color your perception. The Utes didn't play any better than in any other game of the season. BYU just played a really bad, Max Hall in particular."

That's me, Mr. Blind Allegiance. Of course Utah didn't play any better than it did in any other game of the season. They forced 6 turnovers every game this year against quality opponents. Oops, what am I saying? Utah didn't force any of those turnovers, BYU just played really bad. Thaaat's it.

"Get off your high horse, Body. The Utes had their fair share of struggles this season, barely eking out wins in several instances (Lobos anyone?). Yeah, they squeaked by Michigan, but that team ended up 3-9. Whoopteefrickindoo."

I believe I mentioned this in the blog. You can go back and read it if you want. You can find it in the second paragraph where it only took up 90 percent of said paragraph.

I stand by my statement that it was great to see the Utes play up to their potential. Too much of this season was passed watching them badly outplay thier opponents only to let them into the game with sloppy play, penalties, and general underacheiving. (see New Mexico, Air Force, Michigan.)

I'll admit the TCU win was fairly lucky, but you have to give credit where it is due, and Utah made the big plays when they had to in that game, TCU didn't.

Make no mistake, Anonymous: Utah was and is the better football team. They played a tougher non-conference schedule (Oregon State, possible PAC-10 Champions,and Michigan, who admittedly is bad vs. 0 win Washington and 4 win-UCLA who only has beaten Washington, Washington St, Stanford and Tenessee-4 teams that would be middle to lower tier MWC teams this year.) They beat TCU, who thrashed BYU. Oh, and the pesky little fact exists that they beat up on BYU pretty well themselves the other day.

So, the moral to the story is: Before you come on this blog and throw the bullshit allegation at me that I just have blind allegiance to my Alma Mater, learn your facts, read and comprehend the article I've written, get some objectivity, and then make a comment that makes some sense, because when you come on here with that weak stuff, you are just an embarrasment to you own fanbase, trust me.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous here. FYI, I'm a Ute fan. So much for that argument.

Believe me, I'm not saying that BYU was the better team Saturday. The Utes clearly played better.

But you yourself admit that everything else being even, the Utes played the same game they have all season. I agree. Your "gloat post" made it sound like the Utes did something extra special against BYU that led to the drubbing. "The Utes finally put it all together" or some other bullcrap argument like that. Sounded like you were letting your love of all things Ute color your perception.

Despite what Taylor says, the stats do paint the picture that the game was "pretty close." I say that the difference in score was that BYU's quarterback choked and the Utes were able to convert. Yes, some of that was due to the Ute's defense and some of it was just due to Hall's personal errors and random bad luck.

I take exception to the Ute fan who acts like Utah can do no wrong. In reality, a lot of sports comes down to luck. Randomness. If a few balls bounced a different way here and there, the Cougars could be in the same position as the Utes. Am I happy that's not the case, yes.

All that said, the better team DID win on Saturday, I just don't see what we need to be assholes about it and give attribution to reasons that don't exit. The Ute's played their game, BYU didn't play their game. Is that all because of the Utes? No.

One more thought ... people who show up to church in Utah the day after the "big game" wearing their school's colors (BYU and Ute fans alike) are complete dumb asses. It was a football game, people. And you're AT CHURCH. Is it really necessary to rub the win in the face of the other team's fans? They know their team lost, you don't have to remind them. Hell.

Boyd said...

"But you yourself admit that everything else being even, the Utes played the same game they have all season."

No. I didn't. It's called sarcasm. Look into it.
The Utes certainly didn't cause 6 turnovers every other game and their offense only clicked on all cylinders like this 2 times all season.

"Your "gloat post" made it sound like the Utes did something extra special against BYU that led to the drubbing."

They did. Perhaps causing 6 turnovers and beating your bitter rival by 24 points in a game with huge implications for both teams is nothing special to you, but it is to me.

"The Utes finally put it all together" or some other bullcrap argument like that. Sounded like you were letting your love of all things Ute color your perception.

What love of all things Ute are you even talking about? I am by no means a blind homer, anyone who knows me and follows this blog knows that. And the Utes DID finally put it all together. That isn't bullcrap. Did you watch the game, bro?

Despite what Taylor says, the stats do paint the picture that the game was "pretty close."

Come on man, the stat that matters, THE SCORE, show that it wasn't a very close game, unless you consider 24 points close. Looking at Yardage and "stats" as an indicator of a close game often misses the boat. If you watched the game, you know that it wasn't close, and really could have been much worse for BYU, who never got things going.

"Yes, some of that was due to the Ute's defense and some of it was just due to Hall's personal errors and random bad luck."

I don't really care about what your interpretation of what it was
due to, frankly. I only care about what actually was. And the fact is, beyond all speculation, Utah throttled BYU handily.

"I take exception to the Ute fan who acts like Utah can do no wrong."

Well I'm not that Ute fan. Did you read the blog post? I wrote the following:

"Most of this year, they struggled and scraped by"

"Basically getting a miracle win handed to them"

Does that sound like someone who thinks Utah can do no wrong?

"In reality, a lot In reality, a lot of sports comes down to luck."

Not this game. The TCU game? Sure, in large parts. But not this one. In fact, if Utah had caught all the balls Max Hall threw at them, they would have had 7 or 8 interceptions. Not a single one they got could be attributed to luck. Was the fumble they caused by the sack they got luck too? I mean, it was just lucky Kruger beat the offensive lineman for the sack after all. I heard the lineman farted and got distracted right before the snap. Ugh. But again, I actually watched the game, so....

"If a few balls bounced a different way here and there, the Cougars could be in the same position as the Utes."

Which ones? Please, let me know. And be specific. Maybe I can't remember them because of my tainted Utah-slanted memory. (the only thing I can even think of is when Casteel fumbles the ball and Freddie Brown picks it up, what if it rolls a different direction, but still, that isn't enough to change the game.)

"I just don't see what we need to be assholes about it and give attribution to reasons that don't exit."

Again, read the post. If you honestly thought I was being an asshole, you need to get a sense of humor. This is a sports blog, where often we try to be humerous, (wether we suceed of fail is up to the reader, I suppose)and part of the fun of sports is enjoying the good times together. If you didn't have some friendly needling, it wouldn't be as fun.

"The Ute's played their game, BYU didn't play their game. Is that all because of the Utes? No"

Never did I say it was ALL because of the Utes. I do, however think a good portion of it was. They were faster, stronger, more physical than BYU. They outschemed BYU on both sides of the ball. If you watched the game, you know this.

"One more thought ... people who show up to church in Utah the day after the "big game" wearing their school's colors (BYU and Ute fans alike) are complete dumb asses."

Agreed, but is it that big of a deal?

"Is it really necessary to rub the win in the face of the other team's fans? They know their team lost, you don't have to remind them. Hell"

No. It isn't necessary. But it is fun. And I don't care if you are a Ute fan, I stand by what I said: you are an embarassment to your fanbase.

Anonymous said...

I think you're letting your emotions get the best of you, both in how you perceived Utah's win, and how you're responding to my perception of things.

After all, you have your perception of things, and I have mine. Who's right? Who's wrong?

I guess since this is your blog, you're right.

Later.

Boyd said...

My emotions are, I assure you, fully in control, both in my perception of Utah's win, which is based on sound logic and observations made from watching all 12 Utah and BYU games this season, and in my responses to you.

It's not about being right or wrong, Anonymous. I really don't care if you think that Utah won because they got lucky, or BYU was bad, or a combo of both, or if it was pure Utah etc, etc, etc. I don't care if you think that demons from hell cropped up on the field and made the ball go to the Ute defenders. You are entitled to your perceptions and opinions, as is everybody.

What I don't and didn't appreciate was the manner in which you painted my posting and opinions on the game as blind allegience to Utah, when I feel that I showed, not only in the column, but in my several responses to you, isn't the case.

While certainly a Utah fan, I try to watch the games objectively, and feel that I do a good job in doing so.

If you disagree, so be it, but when someone attacks my objectivity, I defend myself.

Later

Boyd said...

As an aside Anonymous, I have some questions for you, and would like your honest thoughts:

1. Did you watch the whole game?
2. Did you feel it was a close game? If so, why?
3. Was there anything in my post that you found incorrect? Why?

Taylor said...

I'm just curious, is anonymous really anonymous, or is this someone we should know? Show yourself!!

Anonymous said...

i haven't been reading this blog for very long so i'm sure i missed the BYU trash talk of last season's win over the U. We sucked last year, so it's like saying yeah, we beat san diego state. But this week the U won, and we were the better team. we deserve a BCS bowl game and i swear to all that is holy if we don't get one, i'll wish i'd of voted fo Obama